Coupla deep conversations on this subject:
I do believe they use NLP
Lifeistooshorts experience with hypnotism
a few years ago i became interested in the subject of neuro-linguistic programming (nlp).
while the core concepts of nlp have been largely discredited as new-age pseudo-science, there is no doubt that there is at least some validity to the idea.
words and images remain the key way we communicate.
Coupla deep conversations on this subject:
I do believe they use NLP
Lifeistooshorts experience with hypnotism
while preaching this past saturday 3-16-13 the following conversation took place in my car with an elder from my cong, my wife, a retired sister and myself.. me: addressing my wife i asked her: do you know how is brother (moron) that crashed his car into a fire station while drunk?
wife: don't know.
last thing i heard was that he was in a critical condition.at this point the elder chimes in.. elder: poor guy!
BULLSHIT I know personally of folk who were EXTREMELY repented for the most innocent of offenses and the fucking elders couldn't wait to drop the heavy end of the hammer on her!!!
GTFOHWTBS!!!
Fuckers were so sick they had her HUSBAND do the KM announcement's and invite the elder up (UNKOWNING TO THE GUY) to read his wife was DF'd and than turn it back over to him...FUCKING BASTIDS!
just a recap.. i posted a thread yesterday about an exchange of e-mails with a well known and respected elder and c.o.
sibstitute in a spanish circuit somewhere in the u.s. the man is about 50, raised in the truth, belongs to a family where all men are at least elders.
he is proud to have forsaken his dream of becoming a doctor to serve jehovah.
When I was 1st awakened to the TTATT I used to love to point out gen 3 and ask them who told the real lie? or why do JW mis-translate eph 4:8 to vindicate their power or rule?
From your 2 post I would guess you are close to the cut-off with this guy.
just a recap.. i posted a thread yesterday about an exchange of e-mails with a well known and respected elder and c.o.
sibstitute in a spanish circuit somewhere in the u.s. the man is about 50, raised in the truth, belongs to a family where all men are at least elders.
he is proud to have forsaken his dream of becoming a doctor to serve jehovah.
Maybe you should try a different tact
instead of trying to pin him down on WT falsehoods hmm...i was going to say hit him with biblical inaccuracies but really whats the point?!?
What are you trying to accomplish in your discussion with this bloke?
the following are two emails (one mine, one from an elder) that are part of an exchange regarding the unfairness of shunning.
he is an elder and a substitute of the c.o.
he comes from a "highly decorated" family of jw's.
This blew him (the elder) out the water!
Millions of people have stopped attending religious services in many different denominations, because they have had a change of heart. But the fact that it happens does not prove their former faith to be wrong.
Like SD said this is true but he kinda confirmed that just because someone left the baptist religion to become a JW does not mean that the baptist are wrong?!?
DO these asshats even understand the BS they spew?!? The whole make-up of JW's so called preaching work is to convert!
He can put whatever freakin spin on it he wants WE ALL KNOW that a JW job when he knocks on a door is to place some rags and hopefully find a Bible study to convert!
Shit they arent out there just to clarify someones biblical understanding they are there TO BRING SOME FOOLS THINKING IN LINE WITH THEIRS!
image of ahmadinejad consoling chavezs mother angers iranian clericsapparently, showing compassion to a grieving mother is a sin in islam.
the image drew the immediate fury of tehran's religious conservatives.
no unrelated women can be touched unless she is drowning at sea or needs medical treatment," hojat al-islam hossein ibrahimi, a cleric at the society of militant clergy, said, according to iran's al-monitor.
WOW thats the pic they up in arms about?!?
SMDH!
op based on mr. freeze's topic - could attending the meetings/studying again sway any of you back to the org.
hearing the propaganda over and over again is pretty powerful i'm sure.
(i'm a non-jw, non-christian (no offense), stubborn as a bull and even i had moments of pause based on some of the doctrine (lasted 30 seconds) but i never had family/friends at stake or a background in this.
ok we had the silent lambs march years ago right there at head quarter over this issue, don't you think that caused a lot of gossip, and expose on a big abc network called 20/20, and many in europe, canada, all about how bad the governing body's policies are on children.. now we have out of court settlements with victims with a gag order, conti big case, and many more.
so i would think everyone at bethel knows about the governing body's mishandleling of these matters.. i'm sure this, a long with the big new light about the governing body alone make of the faithful slave are causing many a lot of irritation and so are seeing these guys now in a different light..
Yeah the title of this thread is a lil delusional.
I was at bethel from 94-96 and didn't even realize the red wings were in the stanley cup against NJ till after I left!
The way your schedule is and the work load they expect (both hall and factory) the last thing a bethelite is doing is thinking about some molestation case.
"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?